Does BS or Hua Hin have "live music police"???

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Does BS or Hua Hin have "live music police"???

Post by Mike Parker » 26 Apr 2011 16:54

Not sure if this will happen in your part of the world. Over the last 4 weeks Immigration police have "raided " several live music venues in Chiang Mai detaining foreigners playing music even they were not being paid, apart from a beer or 2. Chiang Mai did have a very active live music scene and its sent some places to the wall. Immigration are suggesting that without a work permit you are fair game and you are denying "work" that could be done by a Thai. Fines have been issued and they are substantial.In one case ,and no sympathy for him , a foreigner whose visa had expired is being deported. I just hope this does not spread through Thailand but be warned its happening here.In Thailand even volunteer workers require a work permit,its the law !!! :cry:

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Re: Does BS or Hua Hin have "live music police" ???

Post by buksida » 26 Apr 2011 21:23

This happens frequently in Hua Hin, along with crackdowns and extortionate fines on bars playing "copyrighted" music on CD but I have never heard of a single instance in BS.

The towns with immigration departments and tourist police divisions bear the brunt of all of these clampdowns as they are an easy source of good income (many times their salaries) for 'officials', fortunately BS has neither and long may that remain!

Can you imagine the cops rocking up, demanding 40 grand, and telling Montri that he can't play the Rolling Stones!

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Re: Does BS or Hua Hin have "live music police"???

Post by heikevie » 27 Apr 2011 06:25

WORKING OF ALIEN ACT,
B.E. 2551 (2008)
Alien Working Act, B.E.2551 (2008)
Section 5
In this Act:
"Working" means a working by physical strength or knowledge whether or not intended for
wages or any other benefits.

Chapter 6
Penalty
Section 51
An alien who engages in work without having the
permit shall be liable to imprisonment for a term of not exceeding five years or to a
fine from two thousand Baht to one hundred thousand Baht or to both.
In the case where the accused under paragraph one wilfully departs the
Kingdom within the period specified by the inquiry official, but not more than thirty
days, the inquiry official may settle the case and causes that alien to depart the
Kingdom.

http://www.lawreform.go.th/lawreform/im ... /30442.pdf

http://thailaws.com/law/t_laws/tlaw0366.pdf

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Re: Does BS or Hua Hin have "live music police"???

Post by Mike Parker » 27 Apr 2011 15:31

We had an instance last week where a tourist (foreigner) was at a jazz venue. He got up, by invitation, to sing one song.Half way through the boys in brown apeared with cameras etc and hauled him off to the station with some others.Happy holiday in the land of smiles ! We are waiting to se what sort of fine he has attracted.Very restless bunch of musicians here who are looking to relocate because its their passion and their life.

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Post by Mr Wu » 27 Apr 2011 23:02

Thailand is getting rather silly with its persecution of foreigners and rampant corruption which is probably as bad today as it has ever been.

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Post by Mike Parker » 28 Apr 2011 15:14

There is a distinct feeling up this way that we are moving towards a North Korean mentality. The entertainment and music scene up here has virtually been brought to a standstill,resulting in loss of jobs for many Thais who work at these venues, how ridiculous is that? We still all troop in to CM immigration for our 90 day reporting.If you are in for an extension you need to be there by 7am or its come back tomorrow.I have done 40 plus times since since I have lived here and a friend was recently fined for not reporting his 5 years old daughters address. The economy of CM survives on the huge number of expats here and that comment comes from my Bank Manager . Another good reason to live in BS.

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Post by buksida » 29 Apr 2011 08:46

Mike Parker wrote:There is a distinct feeling up this way that we are moving towards a North Korean mentality. We still all troop in to CM immigration for our 90 day reporting...
It is not just limited to CM - these things happen regularly in Hua Hin also. However they seem to be once a year sweeps, usually coinciding with a new chief of tourist police or immigration that wants a new Benz, or some bigwigs are down from Bangkok.

After the mad month or two the foreigners can stop cowering behind their couches and actually venture out into their gardens without fear of being carted off to the monkey house for cutting their own lawn without a permit!

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Post by Mike Parker » 29 Apr 2011 10:09

Funny you should say that we have a new head of immigration in CM obviously anxious to make his mark.

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