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Banning alcohol sales within 300-500 meters from schools

Post by heikevie » 25 Jul 2015 09:08

Surprise! New booze ban now in effect
By Todd Ruiz July 24, 2015 / 17:11 ICT

ABOVE: Areas affected in Bangkok’s central business district under the 300-meter ban specified in the order signed Monday and expected to go into effect next month. Yesterday a more vaguely worded ban was included in a surprise batch of new laws from the military government which went into immediate effect.

All sales of alcohol near schools nationwide, without exemption or exception, were banned yesterday under a vaguely worded order from the military government.

Although Prime Minister Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha signed a specific order banning alcohol sales within 300 meters on Monday, a new law was unexpectedly published yesterday stating that “no person shall sell alcoholic beverages near the boundary lines of educational institutions or dormitories near educational institutions."

The law includes no language defining how near is “near.” The law includes all schools, not just high schools and universities. The law includes no exceptions or exemptions. The law went into immediate effect. Yesterday.

Thanakorn Kuptajit, president of the Thai Alcoholic Beverage Business Association told Coconuts today it came out of nowhere.

"I was shocked when I found out about this law yesterday," Thanakorn said. "The actual law itself is unable to be interpreted. For example, what distance is considered ‘near?’"

Some alcohol sellers have already warned by officials, he added.

That said it appeared to have a total effect of nothing on Bangkok’s nightlife last night, where it was business as usual in areas which would have been affected by the 300-meter ban such as Siam Paragon, CentralWorld, EmQuartier, Soi Cowboy and many other locations in the central business district. Not to mention nationwide.

As we wrote yesterday, the order Prayuth signed Monday would have, as written, created pockets of prohibition throughout Bangkok by banning all alcohol sales except for registered hotels and the few government-designated entertainment zones such as Patpong, Royal City Avenue-upper Thonglor and the nightclub-adult entertainment stretch of Ratchadapisek Road. It was also to go into effect 30 days after being formally published.

The new law was enacted under the military government’s special powers under Section 44 of the interim charter, along with strict punishment for clubs admitting patrons under 20, street racing and noisy nightclubs.

Oh, and those pockets of prohibition may grown into wider zones of prohibition.

Gen. Paiboon Koomchaya, who serves as Justice Minister, said he’d like to see it increased to 500 meters from schools.

The reason given for the ban is to curtail underage drinking and the scourge of student violence. The groups behind it are a coalition of anti-alcohol crusaders and prohibitionists.

The Thai Alcoholic Beverage Business Association has argued simply enforcing the age limit of 20 for sales would be a better way to address the issue than the outsized impact the law would have, were it to be evenly enforced.

Meanwhile many bar and restaurant owners say they haven’t even heard of the ban.

Additional reporting Porsche Jirapatwong.
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Post by buksida » 25 Jul 2015 09:34

If it is 500 meters Why Not, Blue Bar and Country Road could be history - if 300 meters they're out of the zone. That is of course if it is even enforced down here which these things rarely are - they're more targeted towards Bangkok and the tourist towns.

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Post by buksida » 25 Jul 2015 09:52

Here is a very approximate map of the Suan Luang situation ... it will be a close call for some:
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Post by Mike Parker » 25 Jul 2015 10:08

Just another ludicrous decision from the Junta.Forget about education reform,the environment,insurgents causing mayhem in the south ,farmers that are deep in debt and heaps of other problems lets control peoples leisure hours.

Maybe in Bangsapahan it will not be enforced but let me tell you its potentially wiped out half the bars /hotels in Chiang Mai and other cities. Is there no end to their stupidity? If you own a bar and this law is enforced your property or lease is worthless.Thailand in further decline

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Post by NolaK » 25 Jul 2015 10:25

Wow! With no warning either. Even if it may not be enforced here, all business owners deserve the security of knowing they are not at risk to whims of enforcement and/or to not have their businesses so casually undermined by their government. By their nature smaller towns, especially beach communities, have different kinds of facilities closer to each other, etc. At least I hope it is 300m. These long-standing businesses support the local economy.

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Post by Mike Parker » 25 Jul 2015 12:48

Bars, restaurants and hotels owner in Chiang Mai have already received written confirmation of this new madness.
Of course they have no option but to lay off staff creating more misery in place of "Thai happiness"
We already have the stupid law where you can't even buy take away alcohol between 2pm and 5pm.Whats next a total ban ? I hope this nonsense hits the international media and then when the toursists visitations start to dry up they might wake up.

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Post by bazfaz » 28 Jul 2015 05:45

Does the government want to kill tourism? Or will the boys in brown just accept an envelope and look the other way?

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Post by buksida » 28 Jul 2015 06:55

Military dictators don't care about tourism, it is all about controlling their population.

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Post by bazfaz » 28 Jul 2015 21:30

According to the Bangkok Post the ban on selling alcohol is within 300 metres of higher educational establishments.

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Post by bazfaz » 29 Jul 2015 21:14

And this story I find educational. It seems all you have to do is insist you are not drunk and then you don't have to be breathalysed. At least, that is the logic of it.
http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.ph ... section=12"

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Post by Mike Parker » 31 Jul 2015 15:56

bazfaz wrote:According to the Bangkok Post the ban on selling alcohol is within 300 metres of higher educational establishments.
And in Chiang Mai add within spitting distance of a temple.Now seeing we have dozens of temples within the old city that just about wipes everything out.Bars are closing as I write and real estate agents licking their lips in anticipation that many will want to relocate.Does that let them out of their leases ..no. Lot of money being lost here.

At least BS doesn't have that problem along the beach areas.

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Post by bazfaz » 31 Jul 2015 22:46

When I think back to my uni days we had 3 pubs within 300 metres of college. College had its own bar. And you could buy beer to go with dinner.

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Post by Mike Parker » 05 Aug 2015 10:13

Article in Bangkok Post today saying the Junta are backing off the alcohol ban and undertaking a 6 month study.

Honestly you couldnt make this stuff up

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Post by bazfaz » 05 Aug 2015 15:22

So this is probably the last we'll hear of the ban.

But I do have a worry. We fly into BKK on 28 January and out again 30 days later. A couple of times in the past we have been inconvenienced by 24 hour bans on buying a beer with dinner because it was some religious festival. The last time was particularly weird. We couldn't buy a Chang and looking at restaurants as we walked around there was indeed no beer on the tables. But we were allowed to buy cocktails, which tasted foul. [Mod Edit: we're not really allowed to discuss this on an open forum.]

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Re: Banning alcohol sales within 300-500 meters from schools

Post by buksida » 06 Aug 2015 07:31

We're forbidden to discuss your last question but if could be as long as a year.

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